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Pro-Choice or Pro-Abortion?
Do you really support the right of women to choose what to do with their own bodies?
Published on April 4, 2004 By messybuu In Politics

When one speaks of abortion, the common argument from pro-choicers is that since the fetus is inside a woman's body, only she should decide whether or not she wants to keep it. After all, it would be wrong for us to tell a woman what to do with her own body. However, are pro-choicers really pro-choice or just pro-abortion? Find out if you're really pro-choice or willing to take away a woman's choice with this fancy quiz I designed!

Pro-Choice or Pro-Abortion?
Simply decide whether or not you agree with the following statements.

1. Women should have the right to have abortions if they so desire.
2. Women should have the right to have their brother's or father's child.
3. Women should have the right to genetically engineer the fetus inside them to their liking.
4. Women should have the right to take as many drugs as they desire while they are pregnant.
5. Women should have the right to stab the area in which the womb resides while they are pregnant. IGNORE THIS STATEMENT
6. Women should have the right to have an abortion performed by a shady unlicensed abortionist.
7. Women should have the right to drive an ice pick through the head of a fetus from her body.

Wasn't that easy? If you agreed with every statement, then congratulations! You do honestly believe that women should have sole control over their bodies, and for that, you earn my respect. However, if you disagreed with any statement, then you are a hypocrite that would happily steal a woman's right over her own body to promote your own agenda.


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46
psychx
on Apr 09, 2004
And yes, I already know that you don't agree with that point of view. Unborn human babies are a sack of cells to you, just tissue.


I never said I agree with abortion so you are assuming I do. You should never base your opinions on assumptions. I disagree with abortion but I also disagree with taking away the right for women to choose what they want to do with their lives. Crash30920 in reply #34 said the sack of cells bit not me. I will agree that the same points are argued but I as I stated before I have never covered ground with you before. My ideals agree with your view on how abortion is wrong but I won't force it on others because in the end who am I to judge anyone else?
47
vernmeister2u
on Apr 09, 2004
You should never base your opinions on assumptions.


I apologize for making an erroneous assumption about your beliefs. However, I think that there are many behaviors, to include abortion for convenience, which SHOULD be judged as wrong. If we never judge behavior, we have chaos. Anyone can be free to do whatever they like unless we judge behavior.

VES
48
vernmeister2u
on Apr 09, 2004
Understanding includes the use of non-inflamatory terms when discussing the issue. As to who I will or won't convince, I'll take my chances.


Then you should understand how inflammatory the IDEA of abortion is to some people. You are concerned with mere words, I'm concerned with lives.

VES
49
vernmeister2u
on Apr 09, 2004
I have made my point about how pointless and redundant this conversation is, so I again will leave to those who wish to continue.
50
shadesofgrey
on Apr 09, 2004
Then you should understand how inflammatory the IDEA of abortion is to some people. You are concerned with mere words, I'm concerned with lives.


You can state your position without spitting fire...plenty of people do it all the time. I'm only trying to help, but clearly your venom spewing ways have won others to your side in the past, so my advice is not needed. With that, I bid you a happy weekend.
51
Deference
on Apr 11, 2004
Fact: According to Planned Parenthood, LESS than one percent of ALL abortions are for cases involving rape, regarding the life of the mother, or because of health of the child.

Fact: A child (or fetus) is not an appendage nor is it a part of the woman's body from birth.

Fact: A friend of mine owns a few acres in Missouri, but though he owns those acres, he is prohibited by law to pollute them, just as people are not allowed by law to inflict certain harms against themselves, which would certainly include the child inside of them.

Fact: It takes both a woman's egg and a man's sperm to conceive a child. A child is not uniquely property of the mother in most cases.

Have children become such an inconvienience and/or afterthought to us in our momentary pleasures?
52
xr700
on Apr 11, 2004
I will agree there are times when abortion is a correct option, such as a definite stillbirth or rape. However, I think that lax standards on abortion will only continue to perpetuate the degradation of this country as a whole because we won't be holding people responsible for a serious action. The fact remains that people shouldn't be having sex unless they're prepared for the consequences. That's the problem with the liberals, is that they don't want to hold people accountable for their actions. All teenagers with kids (barring rape victims), are the results of their own stupidity, and they suffered the consequences.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
53
jeblackstar
on Apr 11, 2004
Well, picture this, a woman who engages in sexual activity, rape, planned, etc. is stuck with the "consequence", having a baby, not always, it's true, but often enough. A man who engages in sexual activity, suffers no consequences, at all. So, if abortion is not an option you punish the woman, in every case, while the man is not punished at all.

Cheers
54
vernmeister2u
on Apr 12, 2004
A man who engages in sexual activity, suffers no consequences, at all. So, if abortion is not an option you punish the woman, in every case, while the man is not punished at all.


As much as I want to stay out of this, this one I can't pass up.

Child support. Jail. Those aren't consequences? So called "deadbeat dads" should be put in jail, and in some places are. And I don't support them running off anymore than I support abortion. How can you HONESTLY say the man has no consequences at all? I know quite a few guys who are living examples of consequences for irresponsible sex.

VES
55
jeblackstar
on Apr 12, 2004
In a society where every deadbeat dad can be tracked down, I agree, men have consequences, unfortunately many, if not most, deadbeat dads can get away, if they really want to. A woman who becomes pregnant faces the consequences 100% of the time, a deadbeat dad faces the consequences only when he is caught.

Cheers
56
messybuu
on Apr 12, 2004
If anything, that just means that society should work harder at tracking down deadbeat dads.
57
jeblackstar
on Apr 12, 2004
Society will never be 100% however, so women should have a way out as well.

Cheers
58
MyViewsAndMuse
on Apr 12, 2004
What about the child being subjected to years of psychological trauma due to the environment they are born in. Although these situations are not as common (thankfully) Not giving women to right to chose opens up those loopholes.

Oh, so then the child should die?

am suggesting that you, as a person never having dealt with the choice, should not condemn people for making a decision that they lawfully can make at the present moment. It's fine that you put your two cents in, in fact it is welcome, but I am merely giving you some insight on how we are no one to say that it is pathetic for one individual to choose what is legally their right, especially when we do not know all the things that go with making that decision. As for God judging people that was a direct reply to you calling them pathetic just because their legal right does not reflect your ideals

It is legal to do many hideous things in various countries (including this one, USA) does that mean I should not call them pathetic? Just because something is legal does not make it right. If I think abortion is murder, and I do, then I can plainly say that I think it is pathetic that a women would choose to kill a child because it is too inconvienent.

And should the mother, who is a victim in these cases, be "punished" for being raped by having to care for the child? The mother didn't choose to get pregnant from her attacker, but now she has to support this reminder of the crime perpetrated against her. That doesn't sound very democratic either.

So, you support killing the child? I do not.

Birth is not a fool proof option. It's possible for a mother to die even in a healthy baby. It's also possible for the child to die. Perhaps if a man were capable of going through labor he would, in general, be less likely to say no choice.

And woman have died during a abortion as well. What is your point?

Ok I will make it simpler vern since WE DONT ALL SHARE THE SAME RELIGIOUS BELIEFS than why should one belief try and impose its ideals on another?

Because it is NOT a religious issue. That is what the pro-choice like to hide behind. Yes, there are many that bring religion into this. But it simply gets down to murder.

Well, picture this, a woman who engages in sexual activity, rape, planned, etc. is stuck with the "consequence", having a baby, not always, it's true, but often enough. A man who engages in sexual activity, suffers no consequences, at all. So, if abortion is not an option you punish the woman, in every case, while the man is not punished at all.

So what? Are you saying that because you see no answer to this question that it validates the murder of a child?

Society will never be 100% however, so women should have a way out as well.

Via the murder of a child? Pathetic.
59
jeblackstar
on Apr 12, 2004
You believe that a fetus is a child, I do not, therefore it is not murder to me. That pretty much negates any of your points. You believe it is murder, that means you would never have an abortion, I respect that, but the law says a fetus is not a person, and therefore abortion is not murder. Oh and SGsmitty, as long as the law is on my side, I think it's "pathetic" of you to keep calling people that.

Cheers
60
vernmeister2u
on Apr 12, 2004
Not every unplanned or unwanted pregnancy that come to term is a "consequence". I'm certain some women come to love and be glad that had the child. So your 100% consequence figure is wrong.

VES
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