Ideal, but Practical?
Published on September 24, 2004 By messybuu In Politics

When one discusses socialism with socialists, one will hear that a socialist country never actually existed. Sure, there were attempts at establishing socialist nations, but since they failed miserably, they don't count.

Since a socialist nation has never truly existed, despite the many attempts, is there a point to supporting such a system? Sure, ideally, it'll work perfectly, but everything works perfectly on paper. How is socialism, which won't ever work unless the most ideal variables are in place, different from the belief of magical fairies from Neverland maintaining the world's peace and economy? Some will still insist though that socialism is better than system we have now, because although it doesn't work nearly as well, it's "nicer."

Since socialism doesn't work well except in small doses as America has it, why even bother supporting some make-believe utopia that'll never be? It might be nicer, but niceness doesn't do as much for the world as practicality.


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on Sep 28, 2004
Now look around you at the innovations that you appreciate. Then consider what kind of system birthed them. I think that you will find that freedom and capitalism brings to us the bulk of the innovations that we all love so much despite containing a minority of the world's populace.


I freely admit that capitalism gave birth to many of the things I use around the house. But capitalist countries weren't the ones who developed the tech to fix my eyes or developed the tech to let my satellite dish work. But the 4 or so billion people who made up the capitalist world during the 1900s significantly outnumbered the socialist world and were far richer. This was certainly due to the efficiency of their economic systems, but the fact that Russia managed to maintain technological parity in military terms with the US for so long suggests that socialism isn't quite as anti-innovation as many claim.

I would hate to live in a fully socialist country, but the small amount of socialism which my home country supports does little to inhibit innovation.
on Sep 28, 2004
There were a large number of communist scientists, both in Russia and in China, who achieved considerable social status and material possessions as a result of their success. But communist countries are more dictatorial than socialist, so certainly I'm prepared to disregard their successes for you.


Russia's Communist System was not socialist, it was capitalistic, which was the irony of the USSR. Still even than most inventors in the USSR lived in the fear of Stalin and other Dictators, but even than still more of a capitalist system than socialist. Face it inventors just don't invent for the benefit of society.

- GX
on Sep 28, 2004
Face it inventors just don't invent for the benefit of society.


That is what I said... if we agree then I guess I've got nothing more to say about innovation and socialism.
on Sep 28, 2004
That is what I said... if we agree then I guess I've got nothing more to say about innovation and socialism.


I agree 100%, just have a habit of reiterating stuff.

- GX
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